Homeland Security to Purchase 141,000 Rounds of Sniper Ammo

The Department of Homeland Security is buying more bullets with a solicitation for over 141,00 rounds of sniper ammunition.

Image: Hornady .308 Winchester Ammo (YouTube).

According to a solicitation posted on FedBizOpps, the federal agency is looking to procure 141,160 rounds of Hornady .308 Winchester 168gr A-MAX TAP ammunition.

Such ammunition is sometimes retailed as “Zombie Max,” a marketing gimmick alluding to its power.

“What makes the .308 ammunition so deadly is the long range capability of the round,” notes James Smith. “The ability is called ballistic coefficient, or the efficiency of a projectile in overcoming air resistance as it travels to its target. According to Speer Reloading Manual Number 13, the .308 165 grain has the highest coefficient of any hunting rifle.”

The latest purchase further illustrates the fallacy of the DHS’ excuse that it is buying bullets in bulk in order to save money.

The federal agency will pay around $1.20 for each round, when a lower grain round could be acquired for around a quarter of the price.

The DHS has faced questions over the last couple of years as to the purpose of its mass ammo purchases which have totaled over 2 billion bullets, with some fearing the federal agency is gearing up for civil unrest.

The majority of the bullets purchased by the DHS were hollow point rounds (one order alone amounted to 450 million of them). Hollow point bullets just happen to be completely unsuitable for training purposes because they cost significantly more money compared to standard firing range bullets, contradicting claims by the DHS that the bullets were merely for training purposes and were bought in bulk to save money.

Large scale DHS bulk buys have contributed to ammo shortages across the country. In April last year, the Government Accountability Office announced that it would be investigating the issue, although no follow up has been forthcoming.

In May last year, the DHS sent out a request for information asking companies if they could provide 2 million bullets within a 30-60 day turnaround period.

In February last year, Law Enforcement Targets Inc., a contractor that had previously done $2 million dollars worth of business with the DHS, was forced to apologize after producing “no more hesitation” shooting targets which depicted pregnant women, children, and elderly gun owners in residential settings as “non-traditional threats.”

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  • birdman8421

    We can only imagine the reasoning behind these purchases and the obvious purpose is not target practice. With the creation of another manufactured crisis too important to waste, it certainly looks like the plans of billy ayres are a large part of government doctrine. As corrupt as current government is, insanity seems to be the rule. We are all being taken as fools by the won and our lives hang on his narcissistic whims. The traitorous abandonment of the Benghazi four is apparently just the tip of a very large iceberg. How many must die to satisfy the blood lust of he who is very good at killing people? Perhaps we should pursue the fast and furious debacle just a little bit more. Accountability exists nowhere in our current government, but threats to our economy, sovereignty, health and national security abound. Look for a truly MAJOR crisis to be put forth before the 2014 election. Then we will most likely see where and how all that ammunition will be employed. Then it will be too late.

    • squeeze127

      Right church, wrong pew birdman, This election coming up will determine which way Dear Leader will go. With a take over of the Senate by the GOP and nullifying Obama any legal recourse, the pen will become his sword. Anything radical he does before the election will turn on him, so it will transpire after this election. With the Senate going to change hands, look for Harry Reid to switch back to eliminate the Nuclear Option! That will be the first step! The rest of your logic is really not too far off base. What’s dangerous is the media has his back covered, a little give away there is Jay Leno being replaced when he was number one at his position. His willingness to call out POTUS on his policy was his downfall. This is why the big fight is on to get rid of Fox News, that FCC deal to install monitors was cover to get the low-down on Fox to silence them. Time and again, the polls show that the Economy and jobs are first and foremost on the people’s mind, yet that is last in this administration’s agenda. Most politicians will follow the will of the majority, this man goes totally opposite.

      • birdman8421

        The assault on the Constitution and the second amendment in particular, I find very chilling. Obama must fear the next election above all else and his illegal actions thus far tell me that he will take steps to prevent the next election through whatever means. With the total lack of pushback from the gop, the complicity of the media and the man with the pen, who or what will stand up to the usurper? Just how bad does it have to get before the majority of the populace sees the destruction authored by he who would be king?

  • James Andrews

    That’s ok…….if they are ever dumb enough to try to come after all of us, they’re gonna need more than that!

    • Richard Kubena

      James, I believe that if it only involved fighting guerilla style warfare here at home, we could take them on. But our problem lies with their use of the drones, helicopter gunships and equipment to see us in the dark. If it came to it, I am ready to defend the Constitution and everything for which it stands. But we need Orginization and discipline to be effective as a force. There is a very good reason why the NSA is buying ammo in huge bulks and it has some to do with the dissatisfaction of the administration and it’s minions but a whole lot to do with the American dollar declining on the world stage as the leading currency. Russia, China, Asia, Thailand, France, South Korea and other nations are beginning to or are right now not accepting our dollars as payments becauae of our tremendous unpaid debt with no foreseeable way to pay the national debt. Right now this country is printing eight billion dollars per month just to stay up with the interest on the debt. When those nations drop the dollar completely as Russia just threatened to do over the plausibility of sanctions against them, this country will cease printing money as there would be no need to print because the dollar will be worthless. This means that everything that you and everyone else own will become the governments because they will tax us for every little item that we have in our possession in order to get money. The government will also latch unto our savings and 401’s, taking that away from us. Our hospitals and clinics will cease to operate, our local services such as trash pickup, municipals, ambulances and police will cease. Because no one will be getting paid. The scenario will be ten times worse than the great depression, money as we know it will be no good.

      • Richard Kubena

        And because of the dollar loosing ground on the world stage as the leading currency and the immediate effects on the American citizen, the government is taking steps to enforce its policy of seazure of private citizens asserts. Unless a drastic change of course is made, the crash of the dollar would be complete within the next few years. Once that happens this country will become third rate. One cannot blame the countries that we are in debt to and wanting their money that they will never collect. That is why they are at this moment moving towards another leading currency. Most folks are not aware of this, but Russia’s warning about dropping the dollar wasn’t just a flippant remark on their part, they and the other countries moving towards that end had a meeting between themselves to discuss a world without the American dollar and we were not invited. The administration needs to be asked point blank what their intentions are about this situation, what they are going to do about it, which at this time appears not to be much they can do, the dye is cast. The only hope for the citizens that can afford it is to invest in gold and silver bullion as that will be the only payment that will be accepted. Invest in gold and silver bullion and let it be stored for safe keeping in a country where the government can’t get it’s hands on it. This is the most likely reason why the NSA is buying up all of the ammo., because they know when the dollar becomes no good and when the government comes after your assetts there will be hell to pay. Check it out, the declining dollar as the worlds leading currency. It is coming sooner than everyone realizes.

      • James Andrews

        Great post Richard! I have been stating similar things about our dollar, and financial security here in the U.S. It’s scry as hell, and you are correct.

        • Richard Kubena

          Yes it is as scary a scenario that one could imagine. A couple of small business friends and I were discussing this very thing this morning. They are very worried at what’s coming and one said that a source in Newsmax said that everything will hit the fan in 18 months and that is about the time frame I have been reading about. For me that would be about right, I’ve been paying on my house for twenty years and I will have it paid for in two more years, just in time for everything go to hell in a hand basket. I am in the process of selling my other properties plus my house and liquefy all of my personal belongings, things that I don’t use or need that will tie me down. I will keep all of my firearms tho. I will then take the proceeds and look into buying gold and silver bullion and certain gold coins, as not all gold coins are equal. I am single and on my own thank goodness where I will be able to maneuver if I need to.

          • James Andrews

            You are a very smart man…….I too am in a similar situation. Have had an old house now for about 22 years, have about six to go. Still neeeds some work. Have a few firearms, will but another one or two as soon as the workload picks up a little more, for both hunting and potential self-defense. I wish I had some gold/silver, but may have to slowly invest in some. Ammo will be worth a lot more too, when the crap hits the fan!

          • Richard Kubena

            James, you need to start buying ammo now, it is getting to where you won’t find any soon. I found out today that the government has begun grinding up the brass shell casings so that reloaders can’t find any to buy. Everyone that I know that own firearms are buying their ammo by the cases when they ” can ” find it. When I graduated out of high school fourty years ago I would have never imagined that we as a country would be in this kind of situation with the kind of leadership that we have today. As little as ten years ago I would have never imagined this happening. Folks need to band together and talk about the what if scenarios and develope plans to protect one another and plans for nutritional survival if things go south on us as they appear to be doing.

          • James Andrews

            Thanks Richard……I’ll start to do just that.

  • Dave

    I truly believe the truth and conscience of the voters in 2008 and 2012 are coming home. I believe the People of These United States will do the proper thing in 2014 and 2016. The events of every passing day further proves that this administration does not understand America. Where did they learn what the United States is all about? Indonesia? Smoking Pot? As I have always said, Barack Hussein Obama and many in Congress as well as the “support” staff for this administration, suffers from chronic intellectual myopia. There must be an end to this type of “governing” and that would include spending.

    • Rick

      Dave, Obummer and his loyal followers in Congress and in the Courts, as well as those that worship at their altars to him, ALL “understand” America…. What they are ALL about is the UN-DOING of America, exactly because of WHAT America means, by ANY and ALL means possible, and as quickly as they can get it done….

      • Dave

        I think You are exactly right.

    • Loyal

      Boy I like your post, and I pray your right, “Do the proper thing”, Like Wow! Hilly’s gonna give me even more goodies, wonder who I should vote for? (Hope you realize I make joke) Yes?

  • VERN

    Every
    worthless politician that had anything to do with obama care needs to be removed
    from office arrested charged
    with Treason and striped of their life time benefits , along with being held
    accountable for the numerous deaths incurred under this disastrous law
    !
    Take note of the first policy below

    Do these policies sound
    familiar?
    *How to create a social state by Saul Alinsky

    *There
    are 8 levels of control that must be obtained before
    you are able to create a
    social state. The first is the most
    important.

    **1) Healthcare –
    **
    *Control health care and you control the people*

    2) Poverty

    *Increase the Poverty level as high as possible, poor people
    are easier
    to control and will not fight back if you are
    providing everything for them
    to live.*

    3) Debt –
    *Increase the debt to an unsustainable level. That
    way you
    are able to increase taxes, and this will produce more
    poverty.*

    4) Gun Control –
    *Remove the ability to defend themselves
    from the
    Government. That way you are able to create a police
    state.*

    5) Welfare –
    *Take control of every aspect of their lives
    (Food, Housing,
    and Income)*

    6) Education –
    *Take control of what
    people read and listen to – take
    control of what children learn in
    school.
    *
    7) Religion –
    *Remove the belief in the God from the
    Government and schools*

    8) Class Warfare –
    *Divide the people into the
    wealthy and the poor. This will
    cause more discontent and it will be easier
    to take (Tax)
    the wealthy with the support of the poor.*

    Every single
    thing on this list is happening or has happened recently to the United States !
    What Will it take concentration Camps opening and people being interned for
    everyone to realize what is happening !

    • JimmyJ

      Vern … You sure got that right, except he is concentrating on a race war as well as a class war.

    • unkwunsldr1

      And Hillary has said she agreed with this man!!

  • VERN

    EYE’S WIDE OPEN PEOPLE
    !

    Be advised this is fact” The issue here
    is that a Crisis weather Natural or Manufactured is all
    that’s needed to in act this
    mandate, Since Obama signed a law(NDAA)on New Year’s Eve granting himself
    absolute power to indefinitely detain American citizens suspected (by him) of
    being “belligerents.” He promises he won’t use it, He’s a Trustworthy Guy
    “RIGHT”

    POLICE STATE USA: FM 3-39-40 INTERNMENT
    AND RESETTLEMENT OPERATIONS [!]

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Voj9o3tpvdM

    INTERNMENT AND RESETTLEMENT Map of US sites!

    http://www.altnews.info/wp-content/gallery/fema-camps/1289666118-95.jpg

  • Paula Lusby

    Isaiah 54:17 KJV

    No weapon that is formed against thee shall prosper; and every tongue that shall rise against thee in judgment thou shalt condemn. This is the heritage of the servants of the Lord, and their righteousness is of me, saith the Lord

    I believe HIM.

    • Loyal

      He also said, set on you rear an vegetate huh? To bad you weren’t around in 1930 you could have told hitler all about it. I certainly agree that God is in control, but He tells us, (as my dad would say) not to set on the stool to do nothing. I believe if you read the Whole Bible you’ll find we’re to put legs on are Prayers.

  • daneagle

    I just saw and listened to Hornaday himself yesterday saying that all this hallabalew about ammo is not true,,,,,,,,,,,,HEY! How many of you seen him say that ?????????

  • rosech

    The question I have is why is any weapons company even complying and selling to the government. This is absurd. Means to me they are part of the problem and none of the solution. These same companies told us they were short or out of supplies, yet they can come up for the government? Something stinks to high heaven here.

    • foxfiredelta

      I have been thinking the same thing.The fault lies with the ammo manufactures,they don’t have too sell ammo too the government in the amounts that they do.Seems to me that its time that we as gun owners start boycotting Remington,Winchester and all of the other ammo makers in someway.They can refuse to sell too the government in large amounts like that and until we stand up too them and show them that we can hurt them money wise then they will keep on selling ammo that is ours too this idiot asshole government.

  • thegodfather4u

    Is it
    any wonder when over 73% of American’s (all race’s and creeds) don’t trust our
    government exists today? Racial divide actually
    created by our current administration….. and we all need to do some in-depth research on these groups that have
    a stronghold on our Government and the World that have a goal none of us want
    to think about……Bilderbergs…Trilateralists..Council on Foreign Relations
    (they own the government and most of the media)..Our economy at
    the worst since the great depression….Our unemployment in double-digits for
    over 5 years….Over 17% of our population not being able to feed their
    children or themselves….UN anti gun laws signed by our administration which
    means Global registration and over 30 anti-gun laws passed secretly as well…….Insider
    Trading secretly re-approved by our administration for all members of our
    government….90% of our media being controlled by the above groups to insure we
    remain docile and guarantee our continue apathy….NSA/CIA spying on every
    facet of our lives and implanting chips in computers being sold to the
    public….Hording of ammunition and arms by our governments law enforcement
    agencies .. Unconstitutional Obamacare being forced on all American’s without
    our vote, and although there is much more a new item for all of us to think
    about……Why do we have 56 FBI swat teams secretly in place in the United States…anyone
    remember Waco ?

  • sgtstriker

    Much to do about nothing. Considering the number of LEO’s that serve under the umbrella of the DHS the amount of ammo they purchase is not shocking. Between training and service ammunition the numbers break down to reasonable amounts of ammo per officer. In law enforcement training the use of the “Duty” ammunition for training is normal albeit expensive. Absolutely necessary for sniper training and typical for most other training. One consideration amongst trainers is that if an inferior round is used for training it may be accidentally retained and used as duty ammo with potentially deadly results. (Yes, some cops only see bullets and have no idea if they are the correct ones to use as service ammo).
    Bottom line – There is nothing shocking about the ammo orders by DHS. Devote your time and efforts to subjects of greater concern.

    • Loyal

      “Sniper” Just who are they sniping? If they don’t know what bullets, to use, they don’t need to have a gun! “Shocking”, You!

  • Mike Parris

    As a Vietnam Combat Vet I saw first hand the results of poor decision making in our government.
    I now have more questions than answers. Why the massive ammo purchase by FEMA and DHS? Why are the same people buying up all of the emergency food supplies? Why are they stocking up on millions of body bags and plastic coffins? Why are they unconcerned about Trillions of dollars of additional national debt? i’m afraid we won’t know the answer to those questions until the UN troops knock on our door.

    • Richard Cranium

      Thank you for your military service!

      • James Andrews

        Second that!

  • The duck

    Might be a good idea to start getting after the CEOs of the manufacturers. They very well can turn down contracts if their products are for illicit purposes. And DHS is one of the most illicit Iknow of.
    Sniper rounds if issued to our Border Patrol would make good sense but they are told to run and hide if they see any drug runners or fence climbers and to keep their pistols holstered. Wonder what the Border Patrols mission is? It’s not coraling fence climbers or capturing drug runners anymore. Most be escort service.

  • sgtstriker

    Hey LOYAL, I can’t find your earlier response to my earlier post, so hopefully you’ll see this…
    The part in parenthesis in my post was in reference to SOME of the street cops. They are not all gun nuts and do not know much about Internal, External, and Terminal ballistics or the difference in some bullet configurations. Hence my statement that SOME could confuse inferior practice ammo with service ammo. And I was not referencing snipers. Snipers are members of specialized units and do take the time to learn about ballistics. Snipers definitely know what rounds they are putting in their rifles.

    I hope this clarifies the matter for you.

    • FEDUP365

      Don’t you think theres just as many if not more snipers in the civilian population as there are still in the UN police. Bring em on, I’m loaded for bear and always hit my target. Time to quit babbling on the internet and go to DC and get it on and take care of business. Why is everyone waiting for the other, someone needs to set a date and all patriots need to show up locked and loaded and DEMAND his imperial majesty depart our Country for good. And if it turns bad like the Ukraine just did then at least we won’t be firing rubber bullets. Pretty soon thats all we will be able to buy is rubber bullets.

  • Paula Lusby

    Reply to Royal.

    2 Chronicles 20:15

    King James Version (KJV)

    15 And he said, Hearken ye, all Judah, and ye inhabitants of Jerusalem, and thou king Jehoshaphat, Thus saith the Lord unto you, Be not afraid nor dismayed by reason of this great multitude; for the battle is not yours, but God’s

  • constancespinney

    That “squeeze” calls Len’s quitting his position in late night being the result of calling out the president is ridiculous and if he could think, he’d know it isn’t true. Leno has other plans, buddy, and he’s doing them. Also, hate to tell you, but Fallon has had the highest ratings in years and years. Leno was getting tired of the gig – he left. Period. If the repugnicans do take over the Senate, this country won’t be fit to live in. They are busy cutting funds to schools, libraries, and shuttting down health care for women every place you look. Disgusting people. Inhuman. But, THEY believe they know everything, including what ever woman should do with her own body. Too bad they are so stupid. I had finally reached a point I could be proud that we had joined the rest of the civilized world in offering health care to EVERYONE, not just you rich birds. How is it anyway, that you hate us all so much? Do answer that, PLEASE.

    • foxfiredelta

      What we hate is you libtards,the republicans may not be the best lot of the bunch,but at least they are better than that idiot up their in the WH.You dimcrats are the one’s ruining this country,with letting the queers openly prance around,your stupid bummercare,that most of America didn’t even want.Then you come along and want to let illigals have a chance to become citizens,when they have already broke our laws by being here illegaly.You want to spend us into a debt that we can never pay for and then give millions away to some country that Russia has invaded.If you had your way,you would disarm every American and make us slaves too this socialist government.So take your lib ass and go sit on a razor studded dildo,no one here cares about your liberal views.

    • FEDUP365

      SPEND, SPEND, SPEND. or is it supposed to be PRINT, PRINT, PRINT till theres no way in hell we will ever be able to pay off the national debt. The only way out after this black sheep has left the “White House” is for the next president to declare the US economy as being insolvent and file for World Wide bankruptcy. Fucking demoncraps have sold us out never to be a Super Power again in our lifetimes.

    • CommonSense4America

      We don’t hate you, we hate stupidity. Stop thinking that being stupid is a virtue.

  • Pleero

    My thought is that the first amendment is just as important. Why not read and respect all the amendments? It appears that between greed and control issues our government has become a free for all. The girl secretaries can not put return addresses on the envelopes or dates on the forms. We have taught a lot of so whats in this country. I had a computer stole from my room in a so called nice motel. Someone has been teaching that it is alright to steal. We are entering a period of dark ages.

    • Richard Cranium

      I’d assume the hotel employs illegal sliens to clean these hotel rooms. Illegal aliens are criminals… Visit NumbersUSA.com and send FREE FAXES to your elected officials. I donate heavily so others can fax free of charge.

  • Pleero

    No principals or theories. We let the children watch pictures of princess and even this country was founded on our constitution. It was not founded on whims of who is more popular or pretty.

  • America-A Christian Nation

    Anthony Weiner’s Wife… I’ve especially wondered about a Muslim marrying a Jew. That’s just not normal. AND WHAT IS THE REST OF THE STORY ??? The FOXES have entered the hen house. Have you given any thought lately as to why Huma Abedin is standing by her man — Anthony Weiner. Yes, this the politician who exposed himself to numerous women and was forced to resign from the House of Representatives. Yes, the same pervert who was running for Mayor of New York. Here’s the real story: Huma worked for a journal which promotes Islamic supremacist ideology which was founded by al-Quaida financier, Abdullah Omar Nasseef. During this same time, about seven years, she also worked for Hillary Clinton, (you know her…the “what difference does it make” lady). Naseef also headed up the Muslim World League, a leading Muslim Brotherhood organization. The name of the publication, the Journal of Muslim Minority Affairs, was first edited by Huma’s father, Syed Abedin, and now by her mother, Saleha Abedin.

    Saleha is a member of the Muslim Sisterhood and also directs an organization, The International Islamic Committee for Woman and Child, that comes under the umbrella of the Union for Good, a U. S.- designated terrorist organization. The Union for Good is led by Sheik Yusef al-Qaradawi, the notorious Muslim Brotherhood jurist who has issued fatwas calling for the killing of American military and support personnel in Iraq as well as suicide bombings in Israel ..
    One wonders how Huma Abedin with her family associations was able to receive security clearance to work with the Secretary of State. One wonders, too, what influence she had over U. S. policy-making while in this position, Deputy Chief of Staff. What do you want me to believe? That it was just a coincidence that she married an up and coming Jew to Congress? That she really was in love with him? Isn’t it also interesting that her family never denounced her for marrying a Jew? Is it coincidence that she forgave him just like her boss, Hillary, forgave Bill for his transgressions? We know that Hillary did it because of her own political ambitions and the heady taste of power. Is it power that Huma wants? Or, is it because she is a Muslim Brotherhood plant and has been ordered to do what THEY want her to do?

    Look who’s new in the white house!
    Arif Alikhan – Assistant Secretary for Policy Development for the U. S., Dept. of Homeland Security
    Mohammed Elibiary – Homeland Security Adviser
    Rashad Hussain – Special Envoy to the Organ. of the Islamic Conference (OIC)
    Salam al-Marayati – Obama Adviser and founder of the Muslim Public Affairs
    Council and is its current executive director
    Imam Mohamed Magid – Obama’s Sharia Czar from the Islamic Society of North
    America
    Eboo Patel – Advisory Council on Faith-Based Neighborhood Partnerships

    This is flat-out scary!!! Now ask me why I am very concerned!!! Do you feel OK with this??? It wasn’t 19 Lutherans that hijacked our planes on 9-11. How can this happen, and when will we wake up??? Go ahead, look it up for yourself.
    We are quiet while our Country is being drastically changed!!! (or are you one of those who voted for CHANGE?) The foxes are now officially living in the hen house… Do you feel safe now. The only way for evil to succeed is for good men to do nothing. It’s beyond time to WAKE UP AMERICA and get the muslim out of the White House. That would be real change.

    If you’re not CONCERNED, DELETE this. Go to bed tonight… sleep well!
    Otherwise-get the word out!!! We’ve got to have some relief starting with the 2014 Elections!

    • John Obrien

      Hello, I’m a white male,catholic,54yrs old,born+raised in this great USA,married,small business owner in N.E.PA., Your opinion above is 100% accurate+correct in everything you state above. I’ve been trying to warn+wake up any+all of my fellow Americans for about 2-3yrs now about what’s happening to our great USA. I’m very concerned,worried+pissed off at what this president(Obama) has already done+in the process of doing+not doing to our country!
      1)Let’s start with Anthony Weiner AKA (CARLOS DANGER)+(THE KING JEW PERVERT)+THE (ASSHOLE SORE LOOSER),! How can the good people of NY vote him into the high office he held as a USA Rep without being lied to by not just him but his political cohorts who were looking for favors in return. He would have had a major connection rite into the White House if he didn’t screw himself with his perverted pictures to women he never new. His beautiful wife Huma would and possibly still could have direct input to top officials+if Hillary Clinton should become the next POTUS (please God Forbid)! He had gotten plenty of money+support from not only the good Jewish ppl of NY but he also got it from all the F–king Muslims of NY state becouse of his fixed/fraud marriage to his wife Huma who has all the Islamic Muslim support due to her family’s Muslim connections with the muslimbrotherhood and all the other Islamic Muslims+terrorist groups. Only last week I saw pics of Muslims gathering to protest some of there fraudulent claims about not being treated fairly in the USA. The Islamic Muslims filled the streets of midtown manhattan with multiple thousands+thousands of them chanting+screaming+crying+praying for Americas demise.
      2)Obamas threats of disarming America. He wants to disarm,takeaway all of our guns+ammo. He’s trying to take our 2nd amendment away from every American. To take away our right to defend ourselves. If we let him do this we might as well just let him kill us right away instead of all the Tourture and starvation and many other things that will happen to us. I note here that they will have to pry my guns out of my cold dead hands, I’ll never ever surrender my rights to own+keep my guns.
      3)Obama has put the muslimbrotherhood in many top positions in the White House+thruout the govt. They will be the ppl running the show when they come to take our guns and to enforce the marshal law started by Obama very soon.Obama has them running the depts of HLS+other security depts.
      The Muslims in the USA are trying and succeeding getting there so-called peaceful religion into our children’s schools to brainwash them while there young and to be more accepting to there beliefs. The Muslims also are trying to get there sharia laws into our court systems. They now practice there sharia law in many areas of the USA. Also what’s really freighting about our present govt is there allowing Islamic Muslim terrorist groups to establish training camps+community’s such as the one large well know ones called Islamberg in Hancock NY. Plus the 20 plus just announced in the major news outlets+by the dept of justice in late February 2014. Please check google or any search engine for all the news on these Islamic terrorist training camps throughout our great USA.

  • constancespinney

    For all of you who are so against health care, it’s nice to know YOU have it. And, having a president who knows how to talk is so refreshing I guess you can’t understand it because your only desire is bombing and starting useless wars. None of you would ever go fight in them of course. Civilized countries DO have health care for their people. Why don’t you move to S. America? It’s a hotbed of insanity there. Perfect for you jerks.

    • FEDUP365

      I served in Vietnam just so dumb little girls like you could have the Constitutional Rights to say what ever you feel like saying. Now I can say what I want to under my rights too. YOUR prezidaunte is a LAW breaking, NON american, Anti American imposter,muslim loving piece of dog shit. I will agree on one thing with you. We don’t need to be sticking our noses in everyones business every time they have a conflict. Especially where muslims are involved. Let them kill each other off till theres none left or that we won’t have to kill in a war with them when they try to invade our country. As far as ACA it’s still ILLEGAL to force us to pay insurance companies a monthly premium. That would be like this administration telling you that you will buy Ford because we bailed them out and Chevy is competing directly with the guvment so your not allowed that option, YOU WILL BUY FORD FROM US. “None of you would ever go fight in them of course” Did you go fight for your Country or did you let those of us who did fight a battle for you? Your just insignificant when you said None of you. Your Welcome.

    • unkwunsldr1

      Your sad.

    • I think maybe you liberal pieces of shit should take a look and open your eyes to the truths of whats really going on as it seems oblunder lover that you have no clue.

    • Homer

      Haven’t been to a doctor in atleast a year. Refuse to buy into this expensive care crud your bff is spending our tax money to shove down our throats and demand we pay fines if we don’t take it!
      He and anyone who still thinks its a good deal are rubber room candidates!

  • Keith Pallo

    This ammo purchase is for distance sniper shooting by overwatch snipers. The round id able to defeat current body armor. If you are going to start going house to hoouse and or engage large numbers of armed or significantly angry Americans an overwatch sniper can pin down the group for sometime to allow for re-enforcements and or artillary and or airstrikes by drones or jets. These are not practice rounds either. I use practice loads for the .308 and while they have less powder are still able to push the bolt and ejct the round on semi-auot AR10 like rifles or carbines!! This is about shooting us at a saafer distance and nothing more. We therefore need to start learning counter sniper work by having our own overwatch shooters with >308 or 300 blackout or .338 lapua rounds!!!!

    • unkwunsldr1

      It sound crazy in this day and age in this country but it is true!!

  • CLIFFORD COKER

    i can tell you the one main reason for the bulk ammo buys is that they ( the government ) is afraid that we the people of this great country will stand and fight back against ass holes like the dictator obama is and his band of old farts that could not tell you which end of a gun the bullet comes out of .

  • unkwunsldr1

    Shoot us right through our walls. Some of those guys I thought were a little goofey building their homes under ground with tunnels with lots of food and ammo are now sounding pretty reasonable.

  • constancespinney

    Amazes me how many of you want guns. How many of you want us to start another war – maybe on false pretenses like Bushy boy did. And of course, his pal Cheney. Lots of good Americans died or were maimed for life over that fiasco. Too bad you never read or listen to the facts about it. Rachel Maddow just did a program about WHY we did it. There was NO reason to do it, just an ego. I’m sorry you don’t like a president who CAN talk, who CAN end wars, who can be a diplomat. God forbid. You do so love those bombs and guns….as long as YOU never have to serve. Shameful. Shameful. Go soak your heads. A stupid jerk just shot a guy for texting in a movie theater. The sort of thing you like. No thinking. No walking away. Just shoot and kill. I fear so so much for my granddaughter growing up in a country that doesn’t want freedom for all of us. For people who don’t want our citizens to get heath care. For people who only want to own guns, but never ability to think. It goes on and on. Stupdity all the way.

  • duz 2600

    300 million guns in the hands of Americans, are a huge number to try to overcome, by any dictator!

    Remember, that only 1.5% of the population actually opposed the British with arms, in our Revolution!

    68% of Connecticutts police refused to register guns, magazines under the new laws.

    500 Sheriff’s associations across America are Oath Keepers!

    Thirty million Americans are Veterans of the military, many of whom swore their oath on multiple occasions to:
    “protect and defend the Constitution of the United States against all enemies, foreign or domestic”.

    Hey, it’s a start!